tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post8553758509783679064..comments2024-03-28T14:13:13.039-07:00Comments on Fueled by Clouds & Coffee: Vintage Colored Pencils: Faber-Castell Goldfaber 4100 (Contemporary Goldfaber Comparison)MiataGrrlhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00727208043312788510noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-57553891726271962802023-02-28T10:10:21.119-08:002023-02-28T10:10:21.119-08:00Thank you so much for your comments, Jael! I'm...Thank you so much for your comments, Jael! I'm very happy to know that you find the blog useful!MiataGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727208043312788510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-35973394775834999382023-02-28T10:05:31.315-08:002023-02-28T10:05:31.315-08:00I saw a set of the Goldfaber pencils with the dark...I saw a set of the Goldfaber pencils with the dark blue barrel on eBay today and knew exactly where to come to research them. Your blog has been invaluable, and thank you for publishing such informative and entertaining reviews!Jaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06558552462286796065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-31553545097021393292021-06-23T18:30:13.915-07:002021-06-23T18:30:13.915-07:00I agree that it can be fun in a challenging way to...I agree that it can be fun in a challenging way to use materials that are not artist quality. Sometimes the "fight" can be fun ;-) , and sometimes the fight can lead to discoveries about how to use all water-soluble pencils better. In any case, I am very process-driven, so even if I'm frustrated by materials, I find a way to learn from them. Thanks for sharing your vintage Goldfaber story!MiataGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727208043312788510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-82446165515578303352021-06-23T17:48:07.518-07:002021-06-23T17:48:07.518-07:00tl;dr: Trying to make mid-grade pencils look expen...tl;dr: Trying to make mid-grade pencils look expensive is rewarding!<br /><br />I once found a set of the solid blue barrelled Goldfabers, when I was innocently going through my friends stuff, and according the sticker across the tin, they've been around since seventh grade, which was... 2006. So of course I adopted them!<br />Student-grade watercolour pencils are my all time favorite sketching medium (IKEA has solid ones, who knew?), but Goldfaber specifically. Mostly because I am from Germany and I have two places that sell them open-stock within walking distance, which is good, I really go through them. <br />So of course I absolutely love the 2006 set - as a keepsake.<br /><br />No idea, if they "expire" in a way and lose in saturation after 15 years in the light-tight junk drawer - I know, I would. Don't think so about pencils, though.<br />I mean, they're still perfectly usable and actually feel more solid than the new, silver version. But those make up for it with more pigment, by reliably melting down with water and mixing better amongst each other. Not by much, maybe 10%, but enough to make the old ones feel... old. <br /><br />Having said that, I wouldn't even notice any difference, hadn't I eventually tried the Albrecht Dürers. Those activate beyond perfectly and painting with them is a breeze. The Goldfabers have the potential to look just as <br />good in the end, but getting there is much harder. Or longer. Usually both, but that's what makes them so interesting and fun to me.<br /><br />Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble :)<br />Take care!Arniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10970638481165615453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-50501208824871882472020-06-20T13:21:21.371-07:002020-06-20T13:21:21.371-07:00Wow, I'm going to have fun going through that ...Wow, I'm going to have fun going through that thread! Thank you, Heikki! Your collection must be amazing!MiataGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727208043312788510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-53192636172388364972020-06-20T13:13:00.130-07:002020-06-20T13:13:00.130-07:00I started in late 1980s and I probably have one of...I started in late 1980s and I probably have one of the largest collections in Finland. I haven't got any older stock however except some 1970s Prismalos I bought when in school. I seem to have specialized in students' and even kids' pencils even though I've got most of the artist-quality sets too. <br /><br />May I advertize a little? You might like to take a look at my Pencils You May Have Never Seen thread at WetCanvas:<br /><br />https://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/topic/pencils-you-may-have-never-seen/<br /><br />HeikkiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-28571811061937978422020-06-19T08:23:55.224-07:002020-06-19T08:23:55.224-07:00Thanks for that historical information, Heikki! Yo...Thanks for that historical information, Heikki! You must have quite a collection of vintage colored pencils!MiataGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727208043312788510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-61684995737310577962020-06-19T04:52:53.821-07:002020-06-19T04:52:53.821-07:00Those gold-striped ones are from late 80s and earl...Those gold-striped ones are from late 80s and early 90s - in fact I didn't know that they included such hues as Gold 449 and Light Violet 439. I have only seen 24 colour sets without those two. They are also the newest ones as they have the European CE logo. Note that there is an indigo-like 442 that has no exact equivalent in any current European FCs!<br /><br />The dark blue ones appeared in early 90s, first in 36 and then in 60 colours. They are the direct predecessor of the later Art Grip Aquarelle line.<br /><br />Heikki (ManedWolf of WetCanvas)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-75864484364590634902020-05-05T13:28:39.435-07:002020-05-05T13:28:39.435-07:00Almost all vintage colored pencils do not contain ...Almost all vintage colored pencils do not contain as much pigment as contemporary ones, so the difference is quite a apparent.MiataGrrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00727208043312788510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-220865105573981879.post-2563964481960581272020-05-05T12:25:51.069-07:002020-05-05T12:25:51.069-07:00the difference is overwhelming in your drawing
the difference is overwhelming in your drawing<br /><br />Bertha E Castro Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02368269791284918188noreply@blogger.com